Phase Cooling VS Liquid Cooling (New Rig and trying to decide)

OK So I'm Building a new Machine And I'm Trying to decide in between Liquid Cooling and Phase cooling:? So im hoping you guys will help me out with this, and I'm hoping i can get a long list of Pros And Cons. Please Below are my Specs so you can see what I'm trying to cool down. So any and all Constructive Criticism will be greatly appreciated. Thanks:DIntel Core 2 Extreme QX6850

NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX

2x GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB

2x CORSAIR Dominator 2GB

HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000 1TB

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS

Creative Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty

Sharp AQUOS 37''LC-37GP1U 1080p LCD HDTV

2x ASUS 18X DVD盧 DVD Burner with LightScribe

Power %26 Cooling Silencer 750 Quad

Creative GigaWorks S750 700 Watts 7.1 Speaker

Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard

Logitech G7 Mouse

(Dual Boot)
Windows Vista Ultimate 64 Bit

Windows XP Pro32 BitPhase Cooling VS Liquid Cooling (New Rig and trying to decide)
Do you have any experience with liquid cooling and are you planing to overclock? I would stay away from it in general as you have a high risk of frying your parts and the difference would be minimal to all but extreme overclockers.BTW the G9 mouse came out and since you seem to want the latest and the greatest I would get it.Phase Cooling VS Liquid Cooling (New Rig and trying to decide)
[QUOTE=''meggido''] Do you have any experience with liquid cooling and are you planing to overclock? I would stay away from it in general as you have a high risk of frying your parts and the difference would be minimal to all but extreme overclockers.BTW the G9 mouse came out and since you seem to want the latest and the greatest I would get it.[/QUOTE]No i have no Experince with liquid cooling, But i am planning and doing some overclocking(but not extreme)
[QUOTE=''cheetfreak''][QUOTE=''meggido''] Do you have any experience with liquid cooling and are you planing to overclock? I would stay away from it in general as you have a high risk of frying your parts and the difference would be minimal to all but extreme overclockers.BTW the G9 mouse came out and since you seem to want the latest and the greatest I would get it.[/QUOTE]No i have no Experince with liquid cooling, But i am planning and doing some overclocking(but not extreme) [/QUOTE]Okay, I would only go for liquid cooling then, but there is still a risk of frying your components. If you want to minimize risk I would get a nice CPU air cooler, perhaps a Tuniq Tower, nice GPU coolers such as the HR-03. As money doesn't seem an issue for you I would get the CM Stacker 830 case which has the space for many extra fans. Then buy some yate loons and install them. Your computer would run very cool without the risk of damaging components.
[QUOTE=''meggido''][QUOTE=''cheetfreak''][QUOTE=''meggido''] Do you have any experience with liquid cooling and are you planing to overclock? I would stay away from it in general as you have a high risk of frying your parts and the difference would be minimal to all but extreme overclockers.BTW the G9 mouse came out and since you seem to want the latest and the greatest I would get it.[/QUOTE]No i have no Experince with liquid cooling, But i am planning and doing some overclocking(but not extreme) [/QUOTE]Okay, I would only go for liquid cooling then, but there is still a risk of frying your components. If you want to minimize risk I would get a nice CPU air cooler, perhaps a Tuniq Tower, nice GPU coolers such as the HR-03. As money doesn't seem an issue for you I would get the CM Stacker 830 case which has the space for many extra fans. Then buy some yate loons and install them. Your computer would run very cool without the risk of damaging components. [/QUOTE]The CM Stacker is a very nice case, But with 9+ fans in there it would be very loud, So my question is how hard and complicated is it to install a liquid cooling system?
[QUOTE=''cheetfreak''][QUOTE=''meggido''][QUOTE=''cheetfreak''][QUOTE=''meggido''] Do you have any experience with liquid cooling and are you planing to overclock? I would stay away from it in general as you have a high risk of frying your parts and the difference would be minimal to all but extreme overclockers.BTW the G9 mouse came out and since you seem to want the latest and the greatest I would get it.[/QUOTE]No i have no Experince with liquid cooling, But i am planning and doing some overclocking(but not extreme) [/QUOTE]Okay, I would only go for liquid cooling then, but there is still a risk of frying your components. If you want to minimize risk I would get a nice CPU air cooler, perhaps a Tuniq Tower, nice GPU coolers such as the HR-03. As money doesn't seem an issue for you I would get the CM Stacker 830 case which has the space for many extra fans. Then buy some yate loons and install them. Your computer would run very cool without the risk of damaging components. [/QUOTE]The CM Stacker is a very nice case, But with 9+ fans in there it would be very loud, So my question is how hard and complicated is it to install a liquid cooling system?[/QUOTE]I've never tried it personally but there some good guides online and if you follow them carefully the installation shouldn't be too much of a problem. Again there will always be the risk of some water leaking and frying something so tread carefully. Yate loons are very efficient fans and are very quiet. Unless sound is a huge issue you should be OK.
You can get non-conductive fluid to use so there is no chance of frying anything. You'd just have to clean up a mess.http://www.xoxide.com/fluid-xp-extreme-coolant-blue.htmlDon't even think about going phase cooling. It's only for the most extreme overclocking as it will drop your temps below 0C. Once you get that low you have to worry about insulating everything from condensation, cold bug, etc. It's not worth the trouble for you and you need to be experienced.
Plus you will need either a very expensive Phase or a custom one to overclock quads to the max, some of the high end models top out around 4.2ghz.As for liquid cooling, I would go to XS.com, read their WC stickies and then post any questions after you have read them all.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70
I would never do water cooling for many reasons1. do u really want to replace the coolant all the time/pay for more coolant2. if you dont install it right (and since you dont have much expierence) 1 little leak could ruin what looks like a great comp.3. hydro cooling has not been proven to work to well with home computers yet, they can do good jobs for servers and maybee big databases but for gaming and home use porpuses it wont do crapi would hesitate before going with hydro
[QUOTE=''R-Dogg'']I would never do water cooling for many reasons1. do u really want to replace the coolant all the time/pay for more coolant2. if you dont install it right (and since you dont have much expierence) 1 little leak could ruin what looks like a great comp.3. hydro cooling has not been proven to work to well with home computers yet, they can do good jobs for servers and maybee big databases but for gaming and home use porpuses it wont do crapi would hesitate before going with hydro[/QUOTE]Might want to research a bit more before you start spouting more BS.1. The loop should be flushed out and coolant replaced about every 6-8months. (not exactly all the time)
2. 1 little leak of coolant won't do anything, even a lot probably won't do anything. You would have to get extremely unlucky or have the PSU at the bottom to ruin your system, it definitely won't be the entire thing though just a few components.
3. H20 is definitely cost effective for those with highend systems and plan to overclock.
A loop can be designed a near infiinite number of ways to best suit your needs/wants.
At the risk of sounding a bit mean - if you need to ask which to use, neither might be very appropriate for you. :) Between the two I'd definitely suggest water cooling, however - as long as you're careful and can follow instructions, you can get it to work. If you're not really planning on overclocking much though, the only benefit you'll be seeing is that it can be very quiet.
Well I have decided to go with liquid cooling, Even though i have Little to No experince with it I can follor directions very well and have found some useful websites to guid me through the process, And thanks to the Non-Conductive coolent suggested i feel alot safer now, Thanks all:D But can you guys please suggest some good cooling systems to begin with? please and thanks:D
The only way to do watercooling is to go custom.
Use those stickies in the WC forum at XS.

You said you only plan to overclock moderately, and not extremely... so just get a high end air cooler...
[QUOTE=''Baselerd''] You said you only plan to overclock moderately, and not extremely... so just get a high end air cooler...[/QUOTE]Do you suggest any good high end air coolers? (That are quite:D )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109140with this fanhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185005
[QUOTE=''musclesforcier'']http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109140with this fanhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185005[/QUOTE]Fan isn't fast enough... plus the TRUX is a bit expensive at the egg.
$56 @ Jab-techthen I would grab a YateLoon fan
$5.00 1800rpm
or
$3.50 1650rpmI personally would take the 1800rpm one and undervolt it to 1600-1650rpm, you would be getting about 60CFM and 28db.
Hey, if you have the money, and you aren't too scared about it, go for the water. While it is definately not necessary in the situation you seem like you were really excited about it. If you'll get enjoyment out of experimenting with it then go for it.BTW you need to go custom, it is so much better.
The magazine Computer Power User in their July 2007 issue had most of the magazine about keeping it cool. Reviews, explanations, and comparisons on all the latest and greatest cooling methods.